8.4 After-class discussion
玲玲
Read Nozick's Experience Machine, then provide TWO reasons for each side (plug or not plug). Preferably in English.
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SelinaUnplug Happiness is a complex experience, and if it is only through the help of external machines that we can create the experience, rather than the satisfaction that we need to create it, the feeling of obtaining it is only known to ourselves, that can not be changed or produced to the outside. Such happiness is one sided and false, it is demanding, and it goes far against what the philosopher Socrates called "the meaning of life is to create and to give. ". One's own happiness will not be understood by others, even in the way of machine help may be more reverse blow. -
葛玉雪Unplug. After read this passage I felt very confused about this question. I awared this is not just a simple question, we should consider so many things such as what is the limitation of AI and neural activity. If this is the true world. But I don't have a very clear recognition about these professional terms. So I just want to follow my heart and intuition. My feeling is that it's not a recreation, it's a way to surrender to the experience machine. I think freedom is that we can choose what we love what we like, we can not be controlled by the machine in particular situation and sence.
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魏巷宁Shining
Unplug
1.There was a very popular saying on the internet: Life is a magnificent adventure, and without the adventure, life is not completed. The experienced machine turns life into an adventure-free stagnant water. Even we can set some risk sections in the pre-programmed life, it is still the pre-arranged one. We will miss the unexpected beauty and unanticipated surprises. What a pity!
2. Russell once said that ,to be without some of the things you want is an indispensable part of happiness. If the were a experience machine, I guess no one want a poor and unsuccessful life. The majority of people want their life to be comfortable and well off ones. Therefore, you will find that in the virtual world, there is no poor people, no unhappy people, even no people experience pain, whereas everyone is ‘Happy and satisfied’. In thisw situation, one end up being a person who don’t know what is emotion. His or her life is so monotonous.
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Liumiunplug： In my opinion，When a person wants to enter the experience machine to get the life and happiness he wants to experience, he has actually lost a kind of happiness in life, that is, possibility. Just like someone said that life is a box of chocolates, you never know what the next piece is like, so we will be full of expectations, visions and even fantasies for the future. If your life is an unexpected setting, there is no What surprises and things to look forward to, then life is a bit boring. The reason why people think happiness is wonderful may be largely because of the unpredictability of happiness. The life that is set always gives people a feeling of inadequacy, because at the moment he sets it, it kills many possibilities of happiness. For example: some surprises such as reunion and encounter after a long time. On the other hand, people’s imagination is always limited, but what real life can bring you far exceeds your cognition and imagination. When your cognitive level and your ideas have stayed in place, the so-called wonderful life you can choose to experience is actually quite limited. Happiness does not have a specific standard. Then there is a comparison between the happy life that different people choose to experience. Then you may still feel that you are not happy enough after experiencing the happy life you think, and then you fall into a cycle of evil. -
魏巷宁Shining
Plug
It seems to be a perfect idea. A virtual world, a pre-programmed and a well-organized life and every-two-year’s re-determination facilitate an satisfied ending. Everyone can live as the way as the way he or she designed earlier. This is how the experience machine works.
As an ordinary person, I may have less to pursue and I may not be able to make great contributions to shock the world, nor am I able to discover some profound mystery to promote world’s development. However, I long for a normal life that is simple, calm, safe, free and happy.
Under this circumstance, I will choose to plug into this experience machine, because it guarantees my most requests for living a normal life, at the same time, leaving me the right to opt the next two years’ life. What is more, the experience machine is more like a shortcut to one’s desired life which makes life easier.
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Liumiunplug：当一个人想去进入体验机器得到他想经历的人生和获得的幸福时，其实他已经失去了生活中的一种快乐，那就是可能性。 就如有人说生活是一盒巧克力你永远也不知道下一块是什么滋味，所以我们会对未来充满着期待、憧憬甚至是幻想，如果你的人生都是一种意料之内的设定，没有什么惊喜和值得期待的事情，那么生活未免有些乏味。人们之所以会觉得幸福是美妙的也许很大程度上是因为幸福的不可预测性。被设定的人生总是给人一种美中不足的感觉，因为在他设定的那一刻起就扼杀了很多快乐和幸福的可能性。例如：久别重逢、邂逅等的一些惊喜之情。 从另一方面来讲，人的想象力总是有限的但现实生活所能给带你的却远远会超过你的认知和想象范围。当你的认知水平、你的观念一直停留在原地时，你所能选择体验的所谓的精彩人生其实也是相当有限的。 幸福本来就没有一个具体的标准，那么不同人所选择经历的快乐人生无形之间又产生了比较，那么你可能在体验过自己认为的幸福人生后可能任然觉得不够幸福，然后陷入恶循环中。
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袁雨欣 NicoleUnplug: 1. The most important thing that exists in the world is to find the true self. So in my opinion, self-perception and feedback are very necessary. What is readily available is not easily treasured, in the long run, people's desires will only grow and finally fall into the abyss. 2. In the experience machine, we should realize whether there is only one person or the whole virtual world, as an independent individual, human relations are particularly important. If it's too easy to succeed, there's self-cognitive bias to react the world reasoningly. What is happiness? if happiness were the only thing significant, we would not care the quantity and quality of it. Just be happy, you have got it. But as the saying goes" where is the sunshine, where is the shadow." Reality cannot be replaced by any machines. Making a difference in your own growth and the world step by step. -
胡若曦unplug:1.how to deal with the moment of distress between each session? The emotional difference can cause mental disorder。 2 If you choose to plug, you must have a clear goal to decide what experience you want to have. In real life, you don't have the right to choose. Life experience is unpredictable. perhaps,it will be a challenge for people to figure out what they really want. 3 . the meaning of life is regret, which teaches a lesson. If you can experience everything, there will be no regret in your life，which can be regarded as another form of regret. -
袁雨欣 NicoleUnplug: 1. The most important thing that exists in the world is to find the true self. So in my opinion, self-perception and feedback are very necessary. What is readily available is not easily treasured, in the long run, people's desires will only grow and finally fall into the abyss. 2. In the experience machine, we should realize whether there is only one person or the whole virtual world, as an independent individual, human relations are particularly important. If it's too easy to succeed, there's self-cognitive bias to react the world reasoningly. What is happiness? if happiness were the only thing significant, we would not care the quantity and quality of it. Just be happy, you have got it. But as the saying goes" where is the sunshine, where is the shadow." Reality cannot be replaced by any machines. Making a difference in your own growth and the world step by step.
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袁雨欣 NicoleWe should establish two preconditions before choosing which one. First, the machine played when the person enter and live in it from birth to death, not a year or two years of specific time. This could avoid creating ideological differences. Second, whether a person is unconscious into the machine. If a person is unconscious and memoryless, then surprise is still the end result for him or her when the desired goal of life is achieved. Plug: 1. Which is more important about processes or resultes in a person's life. Choosing the life of ordinary people is nothing more than growing up, getting married having children and being older. A simple and happy life without any difficulties and tribulations is a complete easy choice. 2. Generally speaking, a person's behavior is directed. We often assume results when we set our goals forward whether good or bad. The German philosopher Kant said that human happiness comes from the satisfaction of needs. So plug in this machine can gain what you want and make your material satisfaction.
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